Pretty much every time the new P365 comes up on this subreddit, there are two main recurring reactions."Wow. This will kill the G43! Same size but 4 more bullets!""I don't get it? The G26 has been around for a long time. How is this new?"So, which gun is the P365 aimed to compete with in terms of size? Let's look at the measurements side-by-side from their respective manufacturer websites now that SHOT18 is underway. I've also taken the liberty of throwing in the G19 as a sort of reference point to what we can compare a sub-compact to a compact with.Size ChartGlock 43Sig P365Glock 26Glock 19Height:4.25 in4.3 in4.17 in4.99 inWidth:1.02 in1.06 in1.18 in1.18 inLength:6.26 in5.8 in6.41 in7.36 inBarrel Length:3.39 in3.1 in3.42 in4.01 inWeight:17.95 oz17.8 oz21.71 oz23.65 ozCapacity:6+110+110+115+1Now, a few things to consider:The "length" given is with flush-fit mags. To get all four fingers on pretty much all of these guns, you will want to most likely have a pinky grip extension. I do not have the measurements for how much height each of the respective extensions add, but I will note that there are after-market products for most popular guns in this category that change this number slightly. Also, most pinky grips can be easily and slightly modified if they are too long. The G43 extension, for example, is basically just a plastic lip that hangs down off the magazine that could theoretically be filed to your liking. Or you could get something like a hyve mag extension for the 43. Point being, beyond the actual grip of the gun, how much farther an extension lengthens it is indeterminate.All "weights" are unloaded. Obviously, the more capacity a gun has, the greater the differential between unloaded and loaded weight.All "capacity"s are also with flush fit mags, as, again, between the stock extended mags, in house products and after market options these numbers can change and affect height.Takeaways:The P365 is most comparable to the G43 in height, width and weight, where the two are very close in each measurement. The 26 is the same width as a G19; in terms of judging the size of a sub-compact I think this is a very informative factor. The 26 is a fatty.the P365 is comparable to the 26 in terms of capacity, but while being taller overall. However, one thing that could use some close inspection is what the length of the grips are available to the hand on the 43, 365, and 26, respectively, when using the flush fit mags. Sig claims that their trigger guard design allows more hand to get on the grip. So in essence, the claim is that while the grip remains about the same length as the 43's, it could allow more hand on the same space. I would be interested in a measurement showing what the length is of each grip that can be held by the bottom three fingers.The overall and barrel length of the p365 is shorter than both the 43 and 26. This could mean reduced accuracy and increased felt recoil compared to both guns.Some have argued that an independent measurement needs to be done for clarification. This is due to Glock and Sig possibly measuring from different parts of the gun to get the width (arguably the most crucial) measurement. While .12 inches may not seem like a lot, it could be the key to answering which gun the P365 should be compared to.Conclusion:the P365 is roughly the same height, width and weight as the G43. It has the capacity, though, of the G26 (albeit while being taller, as is the 43). It is shorter than either, both in overall length and in barrel length. I personally think width is the deciding factor here, making the P365 direct competition with the 43. But admittedly, it lies somewhere between the two and will likely compete with both as both are technically sub-compacts. It does blur the lines and will likely cause designers to rethink whether a gun needs to have 6+1 capacity to compete in the same market space as guns like the 43 and shield. via /r/CCW http://ift.tt/2DSgard
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