
For context, I'm 22 and have never owned a firearm - am thinking of making my purchase and was eyeing a Sig P365XL as a first choice because it seems very capable while still very carry-able. But, I have some anxiety about carrying a loaded gun in any position; I don't want to shoot myself while carrying a gun seeing as I'm very likely to never need to employ it.I came across this lawsuit:https://ift.tt/33l95M0 makes it seem like Sigs (at least the P320) are liable to just kind of detonate even when tucked away in a holster (albeit at a very low rate given how many have been sold). I did some snooping around at various firearm owner's manuals to check the safety information and it also appears that Sigs specifically aren't drop safe?Their owner's manual states "Do not subject your SIG SAUER firearm to any type of abusive handling. This includes the firearm being dropped, impact to the firearm, or the firearm being struck by another object...If your firearm does suffer an abusive event, as previously described, do not attempt to use the firearm."And that's the only time that they discuss dropping or drop safeties. They do say before this that "All SIG SAUER firearms incorporate effective mechanical safeties. However, like any mechanical device, exposure to abusive conditions may have a negative effect on these safety mechanisms and cause them to fail to work as designed" which makes sense but is dropping a firearm really abusive? Aren't these supposed to be battlefield rated weapons? Is this just on here for over-encompassing liability to make sure they aren't liable?I'm curious if anyone knows anything about what exactly makes firearms safe internally against accidental drops or unprovoked discharges, and if anyone who owns a P365 / XL has had or heard of any issues regarding this being an issue with them as it evidently was for the P320. Thanks!For context, other firearm manuals state:HK VP9: "Safety features abound on the VP Series pistol and include a unique side mounted drop safety for the firing pin. The frame incorporates a trigger mounted safety that prevents accidental discharge from impact if the VP Series is struck or dropped, and a disconnector ensures that the slide must be in battery for the VP to fire." - They include no blurb about mechanical failures.Glock: "Although GLOCK pistols have several internal design features and mechanical safeties designed to prevent an unintentional discharge if the pistol is dropped or hit, the proper and safe function of your GLOCK pistol depends on it being used for its intended purposes and not being altered or modified. Like any other mechanical device, if your GLOCK pistol is subjected to unusual and extreme forces a part failure can occur." - I wouldn't call dropping an extreme or unusual force so this all seems kosher to me.SW M&P 2.0 - never mentions dropping or drop safetiesCZ P-10c: "Trigger guard: Helps prevent unintentional contact with the trigger, for example when the pistol is dropped." "Drop safety: Incorporating many features and accomplished through design, the firearm minimizes the risk of unwanted firing during improper handling, especially when a loaded pistol falls or is dropped." - They also include a blurb about drops damaging the firearm: "dropping the pistol on hard surfaces or other “coarse treatment” could cause damage you may not see. If something like this happens allow the pistol to be examined and tested by a competent gunsmith." - this seems similar to what Sig says, although Sig doesn't talk about any incorporated drop safetiesMaybe I'm just splitting hairs or looking too much into this, but it seems extremely annoying to me that firearm manufacturers have no standardized way of referring to how safe their pistols are. Of course, the fact that they are designed in different countries speaking different languages probably doesn't help.Of course, I have no intention of unnecessarily dropping or handling or screwing with the pistol beyond the required maintenance.TLDR: Are holster-fires or drop/shake-fires a thing most concealed carriers should be mindful of? Or just an incredibly unlikely Murphy's Law type of a thing? Are Sigs more/less dangerous than anything else?Thx. via /r/CCW https://ift.tt/33k9aQf
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