Wednesday, July 15, 2020

Update Post/Question on the CCW application process VS purchase permit in NC - What should I say?


(Worth noting obv it has lines about being an addict of unlawful drugs, or being asmin classfied as mentally ill) to be concise at the end as a tl;dr but the context will be lengthy.)​​Alright, so I posted on the sub a couple days ago regarding the process of obtaining a CCW in NC, specifically in regards to the difference VS pistol purchase permits, as I had been approved by a number of those very recently. I got some very friendly and helpful advice on that thread, so thank you for that.​After that thread I went ahead and called the sherrifs office. I learned that the checks for CCW are MUCH more involved in NC (not sure why...if you have no criminal history, the only think you'll hopefully prevent is you hurting yourself 99.9% of the time, and I already got a gun, and everyone's family has a shottie...), as they only check courts for a PPP, CCW is a dive into medical too.​At the advice of the receptionist and the sub I went ahead and got a signed note from my long time Doctor stating I am not a danger to myself or anyone else. I through the red tape BS FINALLY got a appointment...a week later bc they're booked, I guess. At least I got time to prepare, otherwise I'd do it today.​Pouring over the application the sherrifs office gave me, I happened upon some...concerning vague wording. I think it might be partially county specific (maybe?) so it isn't really online, and it (possibly) is in conflcit with the stuff they say online. (Nash County NC, if you know their process in this case please post or DM). The parts that concern are, and I quote -​"Do you suffer from a physical or mental infirmity that would prevent safe handling of a handgun" (knew this 1 already)​(Worth noting obv it has lines about being an addict of unlawful drugs, or being asmin classified as mentally ill)​"I hereby authorize and require any and all doctors, hospitals, or other providers who have ever provided physical or mental health or substance abuse treatment or care to me, " (not limited to stated places online, all the records)​MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS - Although I have been a particularly GREAT boy for years now, I have a history of abuse otc medicine. A lot of it was attempts to dull chronic pain (first bad back, then post brain injury nerve as well). I have been to rehab twice for this. And have been in the emergency room like like , 4-5 times over a short period between 2013-2016, due to loperamdie abuse) I am sure if they get my rehab records it'll mention I have tried drugs that were illegal, though never with frequency. The DXM never fucked with me except a panic attack once post stroke, the other times it was the loperamide, great for pain or the shits but SUPER dangerous​IDK wtf my mental hospital records say, but IK for a fact my doctors knows all about my history. Unless they choose to not GAF this could be a real problem. I'm in this limbo state where I have a genuine use for CCW, clearly not suicidal, been clean from the stuffs for years, no criminal history even speeding ticket, Eagle scout w/ gun merit badges, shooting since I was 8 etc but...​TL;DR (ish) -​I have accepted I will prob have a 50/50 shot. I have a weird ass past, rehab for OTC drugs , the ODs, never illegal drugs though I've tried them.. If I lose, I will fight it, and probably win (eventually with the appeal), though I don't wanna be delayed by 6 months more than anything. WHAT SHOULD I SAY IN MY INTERVIEW? How much should I freely admit? I called them once while working over a guy that tried to attack me, but not the other time where i got lost in a trailer park at night, knife wielder trys to rob me and grab me, grabbed the open carry fired the shot into dash in the struggle and he ran (lucky I was by my open door car)...should I tell them happened? Would it help my case to get character references like my old school counselor and my CCW instructor?​Should I mention my past stroke, the miracle I'm as functional I am but why I cannot defend myself without a weapon at all (and making running far less effective)? Do I need to call my doctor and explain what the note was for and why I need it? IDK how she'd react but I think she's realize it'll be okay just surprising, but shes always super busy and this is uncharted territory​I want to have the best chance possible, basically. I'm an Eagle Scout so the motto has always stuck with me, be prepared, lol​​Thanks, apologies for length, any further advice will be appreciated esp for those in past similar scenarios and DOUBLY SO if anyone here has actually gotten a CCW in Nash County NC :P via /r/CCW https://ift.tt/3fx34PP

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