Monday, September 30, 2019

Out-of-State College Student purchasing


Hey everyone, you may remember a few weeks or so ago I asked if an out-of-state college student can purchase a handgun in the state of their school. I want to share what I've learned for any of the millions of college students this may apply to, as well as organize everything for myself. Some helpful replies to my earlier post pointed me to ATF ruling 80-21 which states:... [D]uring the time the students actually reside in a college dormitory or at an off-campus location they are considered residents of the State where the dormitory or off-campus home is located.Additionally, section 922(t) of the Gun Control Act requires licensees to examine a valid "identification document" (as defined in 18 U.S.C. 1028(d) and 27 CFR 478.11) of a firearm transferee. However, what they fail to mention is how students living on campus are expected to prove residency with government issued documents stating your on campus address. That is, without utility bills or (if a full-time student) tax documents which are generally required to get any other form of state issued identification, such as a driver's license or voter registration. And apparently a signed statement of on campus residency from the school's department of housing on official school letterhead is not considered government issued proof of residency, even though it is a public school :).Moving forward though, on page 5 section B of ATF form 4473, under the instructions for question 18b:Licensees may accept a combination of valid government-issued documents to satisfy the identification document requirements of the law.Additionally, ATF ruling 2001-5 lists the following forms of acceptable government issued identification documents:...Vehicle registration, a recreation identification card, a fishing or hunting license, a voter identification card, or a tax bill.Being a full time out-of-state student we can rule out vehicle registration (It's officially my father's vehicle, under his insurance and registered back home), tax documents, and voter identification (registered back home). After doing some research, full time out-of-state college students can get in state hunting licenses in Georgia. However, Georgia hunting licenses only list your DNR id # and expiration date and not address. Again turning to page 5 section B of ATF form 4473, under the instructions for question 18b:A valid electronic document from a government website may be used as supplemental documentation...Thus it is my understanding that the government website which issued my hunting license and includes my campus address may be considered valid government issued documentation. However, now I'm faced with a new problem. According to ATF ruling 2001-5, a government issued identification document displaying a post office box address does not "satisfy the requirements of the regulations implementing the Brady Act." At my school, when you live on campus you are given a post office box to which all your mail is sent (mail like new hunting licenses). So I'll have to update this address to that of my actual dorm. I'll update this post with any new information that is sure to come up during this process.PS: Now I just have to find an FFL dealer willing to deal with all these caveats.PS 2: To answer any questions that may come up, you can carry concealed on campus but not in your dorm (which kind of defeats the purpose). So it'll live with my friend off campus between our weekly range outings. via /r/CCW https://ift.tt/2mjK7cU

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